Post by Padre Romero on May 13, 2007 9:26:42 GMT -5
(First off, I suggest you read everything we've mentioned, as we've gotten through many of your criticisms already).
I'm well aware there are "other dimensions" out there, I just don't think they really get anywhere in this conversation:
for the purposes of discussing the time traveller, we can keep our discussion limited to the four axis of length, width, depth, and one linear timeline as shown by the picture in the very beginning of the story "the Time Traveller". Phil Conner's goddyness transcends his simple inability to die (our time traveller has that as well). Both Conners and the time traveller can know pretty much anything they choose to know and is ultimately knowable. They can forget things from time to time, but it doesn't stop them from correcting their mistakes and ultimately making reality go the way they want.
Groundhog day is also notorious for pointing out that human agency is irrelevant, it's all about intention, we've touched on this as well.
I think Vecusum raises another interesting question Hec: God, at least the catholic god of aquinas, is incapable of not only error, but logical contradiction, he WON'T ever commit an illogical act...even if the time traveller can correct his mistakes, he's still going to have made them (I guess). This is certainly a big difference, especially in regards to ethics as I've mentioned before.
I'm well aware there are "other dimensions" out there, I just don't think they really get anywhere in this conversation:
for the purposes of discussing the time traveller, we can keep our discussion limited to the four axis of length, width, depth, and one linear timeline as shown by the picture in the very beginning of the story "the Time Traveller". Phil Conner's goddyness transcends his simple inability to die (our time traveller has that as well). Both Conners and the time traveller can know pretty much anything they choose to know and is ultimately knowable. They can forget things from time to time, but it doesn't stop them from correcting their mistakes and ultimately making reality go the way they want.
Groundhog day is also notorious for pointing out that human agency is irrelevant, it's all about intention, we've touched on this as well.
I think Vecusum raises another interesting question Hec: God, at least the catholic god of aquinas, is incapable of not only error, but logical contradiction, he WON'T ever commit an illogical act...even if the time traveller can correct his mistakes, he's still going to have made them (I guess). This is certainly a big difference, especially in regards to ethics as I've mentioned before.