The Elbow Room Sept 3, 2010 10:56:20 GMT -5 Quote Select PostDeselect PostLink to PostMemberGive GiftBack to Top Post by Sarpek on Sept 3, 2010 10:56:20 GMT -5 Sarpek returns downstairs. "No, no ditches. Just install those things they have at security checkpoints that rise out of the ground to block cars."