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Post by Angel on Aug 11, 2007 5:47:18 GMT -5
I'll lecture them upon ancient battles of yore, until they plead for mercy!
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Post by Animatronic Daemon Skwerral on Aug 11, 2007 9:46:24 GMT -5
first off, i hated the RRF long before you posers decided to hate them.
thats sums it all up. this whole thing was started to twist our panties in a knot. Its petty really, our leaders never went out and deliberately kicked dirt in the zombie players eyes and we've kept an open forum for them to talk here.
you see thats the thing about class (even though i never really followed it too much). Its a two way street. Ron, Grippy, and Padre treated others in way that they themselves would like to be treated. Instead we've never really got that attitude from the RRF or Jorm. I've gotten alot better reception from the "cheating assfucks" of extinction than the RRF. So, the lesson here is dont feed the trolls. next time they do this, post your vote but dont reply to any of their nonsense. If they drag something out here, just ignore it.
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Post by Lachryma on Aug 11, 2007 12:03:23 GMT -5
So, the lesson here is dont feed the trolls. next time they do this, post your vote but dont reply to any of their nonsense. If they drag something out here, just ignore it. Sounds like good advice...
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Post by someguy5031 on Aug 11, 2007 12:08:31 GMT -5
a lesson to be learned indeed
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Post by blue tigers on Aug 11, 2007 14:26:11 GMT -5
I'm sorry, I have a very short fuse for aggresive mediocrity. It is a highly unpleasant task, but someone needs to stand to the click accountants.
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Post by Magatsu Taito on Aug 11, 2007 16:07:18 GMT -5
I looked at the discussion, and decide that there's no way I'm gonna read all that... Especially since it's most likely people repeating themselves a lot anyway...
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Aug 11, 2007 16:09:17 GMT -5
just make sure you vote it down tho. I also really thought murrey would be above this petty crap.
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Post by Insomniac By Choice on Aug 11, 2007 16:24:49 GMT -5
I still think most of you are missing the point. It's not the article that's the problem, and almost no one wants to change Ron Burgandy's words. He's a smart guy and a good writer. The issue is that that's the article that has historical status. This is a game and it's not like this is supposed to be a history textbook, but that's what the wiki should aspire to when it records the official history of UD. Blackmore as an event is historical. The article as it is is a good article. But not a good historical article because it records one man's history and not what actually happened.
I don't really care because I wasn't there on either side, but as far as the principle of the thing goes, I'm definitely on the side of Jorm.
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Aug 11, 2007 17:32:11 GMT -5
can we delate this stupid thread? i'm tired of the pissing contest. crap like this really makes me want to leave for good. petty bullshit.
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Post by blue tigers on Aug 11, 2007 17:56:18 GMT -5
I'm definitely not getting what is this fabled point. Frankly, this notion of 'official history of UD' is scary, and I can only think of certain distopias that entertain the notion of an official history line. Please check 1984 and Brazil for starters.
Have you actually read the article? In which way is it not a accurate depiction of the events? If it is an accurate depiction of the events, then why does not qualify for historical status? The only thing it is missing is the official (!) RRF stamp of approval.
Secondly, for almost one year, this was the ONLY account of the BoB. If any interested parties thought that it needs improvements and/or an alternate versions, why haven't they voiced their contributions earlier? Incidentaly, the RRF page does not contain any mention of the Blackmore Battle at all. It was good enough for everybody for so long, RRF chose to downplay/ignore it, but suddenly it is not good because it does not praise RRF? Frankly, I don't get what changed.
Thirdly, have you actually read Jorm's motion? Quick reminder: "should either be rewritten and corrected, de-historicized and moved to a subpage of a user group, or deleted entirely". Do you see the bits about 'rewrittern and corrected, [...] or deleted entirely'? He may backpedal now, in face of PR disaster, but his intentions are very clear from the start. He just wants to rip the soul of the writing and/or delete it into oblivion.
PS. I am genuinely curious to hear your opinions, as hopefuly you are not yet caught in the RRF image cult.
Edit: spelling.
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Aug 11, 2007 18:02:24 GMT -5
god I missed you blue. welcome back. and your wecome for that stick the other day.
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Post by Angel on Aug 11, 2007 18:08:37 GMT -5
Harrison, we can delete this thread under one condition. You have to remember to format your votes and comments correctly. 
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Post by Animatronic Daemon Skwerral on Aug 11, 2007 18:38:28 GMT -5
yeah bluetigers, thats exactly how i feel about it also. i wonder what suddenly brought interest in this article... i also think that they were trying for some fly-by-night legislation because it wasnt put in the announcements section.
maybe we should get some sort of blackmore bastard reunion going so we can get something positive out of all this?
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Post by Angel on Aug 11, 2007 18:48:45 GMT -5
Well, Jorm says the announcement slip was an accident, but it's completely possible that he was trying to cheat the system. A lot of people only see stuff because it's on the recent changes, so once those people voted, it'd look like a legit procedure ,that just wasn't getting much support in the entire topic. But hey, I'm no psychic.
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Post by Lachryma on Aug 11, 2007 19:26:05 GMT -5
I still think most of you are missing the point. It's not the article that's the problem, and almost no one wants to change Ron Burgandy's words. He's a smart guy and a good writer. The issue is that that's the article that has historical status. This is a game and it's not like this is supposed to be a history textbook, but that's what the wiki should aspire to when it records the official history of UD. Blackmore as an event is historical. The article as it is is a good article. But not a good historical article because it records one man's history and not what actually happened. Actually, I think we all get the point, and while we may privately agree with y'all in some respects (like, "Yah, this article bashes dem RRF peeps too much"), several factors make us not give a feth anymore. For one thing, Jorm set this whole thing up as Zombie Players vs. Survivor Players instead of Rational People vs. Fools Who Don't Understand History. No offense to him, but I think even Sonny could've been more diplomatic. Moving along, the timing is random. And how all dem RRF peeps voted while nobody else did was weird too. If they really wanted to do this right, they should have put up a thread here stating their concerns before starting this. So yeah, they might be right, but they are wrong in how they did it. Sorry, RRF.
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