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Post by zokolate on Jul 17, 2008 8:44:19 GMT -5
i was hoping if i could draw from the vast experience of the elders in nmc about my thoughts on the matter. please share your opinion about my humble thoughts :
pker = survivor killing another survivor, thus gains pleasure by making other survivor waste ap by finding revive point and waiting for revive + other tactical losses
bounty-hunter & pker lists = to discourage pkers from their act and making the pker "pay" for the inconsiderate act of inconveniencing another survivor
but
1. bounty hunters are few
2. pker lists are not complete + dispute about lists
3. troublesome to access all pker lists available
4. relatively easy for pker to get a revive if killed
as such, bounty-hunters and pker lists have a minimal effect on the widespread practice of pking.
my suggestion :
i presume that pkers need several days to stock up on ammunition before coming in for the kill, especially if only using loaded shotguns. they might spend a lot of ap hiding, then co-ordinating with other pkers to make an effective strike.
similarly, bounty hunters waste a lot of ap stocking up on ammunition and even more ap running around searching for those on the pker list.
on the other hand, reviving a person who was just pked takes less than a day's ap even if you count the ap it takes to walk to a nt, find a syringe, walk out to revive and come back indoors. often, the process is streamlined if you carry several syringes.
to counteract the pleasure of pking --> all bounty hunters should become full-time revivers. with more revivers, there is less waiting time at revive points and the inconvenience of being pked approaches zero. in safe suburbs with a mall and nearby nt, i can often get a revive in a few hours.
as such, bounty-hunters and pker lists become a waste of ap and real-world time.
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Jul 17, 2008 11:14:56 GMT -5
hmm well i have a two surviver alts, a death cultist PKer. and two alts i'm leveling up that will also be pkers.
so if your suggesting that bounty hunting is stupid and a waste of time than I agree.
bounty hunters just need to get laid. than they would stop.
PKing is just too fun.
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Post by Lord Wulfgar on Jul 17, 2008 22:21:13 GMT -5
In my experience bounty hunters really don't make much of a difference.
I run a Death Cultist so if he is killed by a hunter I'm just as happy killing as a zombie and revives are very easy to come by in most suburbs.
At the very most a bounty hunter is a minor inconvenience to a PKer. I know being hunted and put on a PKer list certainly hasn't discouraged my Death Cultist, if anything it makes it all the more fun to be a killer.
Bounty Hunters may be more effective if they just concentrated on reviving PKer victims but being a Bounty Hunter is a style of play just like anything else.
If it's fun to the player then why not do it? I don't run any hunters myself but I must say it is satisfying when one of my survivor characters hunts down a particularly annoying PKer.
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Jul 22, 2008 11:38:21 GMT -5
you mean like dark baltar? god i hate that ass
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Post by blanemcc on Jul 26, 2008 7:53:28 GMT -5
Pking is practiced for one reason. tEh LUlz. Nothing is funnier than having someome moan because you shot and teabagged them  |
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Post by Lord Moloch on Jul 26, 2008 15:28:57 GMT -5
Pking is practiced for one reason. tEh LUlz. Nothing is funnier than having someome moan because you shot and teabagged them Yeah, I think we all learned that from your reactions during the Battle of Giddings. However, you're quite correct: PKing is all about the fun. Death culting is very similar but involves far more work and does many more times the damage than mere PKing. Bounty hunters really don't make a shred of difference and if enough survivors converted to becoming bounty hunters to level the numbers with the PKers then the effect upon the survivor chances in the city could well be catastrophic. Ultimately though that's not what BHers are about: They don't kill to help the survivor population, regardless of the image that they cloak themselves in. They do it because they enjoy it, which is fine; however, one reviver is worth twenty or more bounty hunters. Edit: You guys need better smilies.  |
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Post by Redwave on Jul 26, 2008 22:44:09 GMT -5
Hunting down one specific particular person is about the hardest thing to do in this kind of game. Tracking them down and killing them is harder. Tracking and killing someone who doesn't want to be found is probably the hardest.
Bounty hunting isn't about helping survivors, it's about the challange. That's probably why I'd rather go into Bounty Hunting than PKing, anyone can open fire in a mall or hide in a ruined building. Finding them however, is a different story.
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Post by blanemcc on Jul 28, 2008 5:16:57 GMT -5
Hunting down one specific person is easy thanks to the RG, especially if the person you are tracking is unaware of the fact they still have a record, and are infact giving away the position of their entire group.
I love PK'ing :-D
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Post by asshole doctor™ on Jul 28, 2008 16:35:13 GMT -5
oh redwave you dildo. and I was starting to like you again.
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Post by Redwave on Jul 28, 2008 21:25:00 GMT -5
You liked me before? I'm deeply deeply sorry I let you down, validation is all I'm here for after all. |
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Post by squidboy on Jul 31, 2008 7:56:55 GMT -5
Yeah, you've got the motivation all wrong. PK'er could care less how long it takes to clean up the mess they make, it's about creating the mess.
The better ones leave something creative behind.
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Post by albub on Jul 31, 2008 8:47:59 GMT -5
Pkers are agents of chaos. Bounty hunters are agents of the LGBT.
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Post by blanemcc on Aug 6, 2008 9:31:56 GMT -5
Pkers are for the lulz, BHers are anti-lulz.
Its true
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Post by DT on Aug 6, 2008 11:22:15 GMT -5
Many PKers enjoy the hunt, rather than simply shooting up a mall. Which is why we enter into wars with other groups so often - so that we have a specific set of targets to hunt down as they flee into other suburbs, before we gun them down repeatedly.
Bounty Hunters are fun to kill, because they'll come after you, and then it's a game of cat and mouse. Many survivors are too focused on protecting a small section of the map to put any effort into finding and killing you after you murdered them most brutally.
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Post by Prisonner Of Today on Sept 16, 2008 2:08:53 GMT -5
I agree bounty hunting is a waste of time, but it's also a lot more fun than shooting at zombies, and it seems like that's what counts in a game. I like the aspect of at least having to put a little effort into finding a target, though it's not as hard as it used to be, at least not with the DEM. And if you look at it, even bothering with the zombies at all is sort of a waste of time too, since they just get back up anyway Not that PKing is any less fun, it's just a different sort. You can be alot more creative with your killings when you can shoot at anyone you want. I personally play both, and don't think either group as a whole is more fun or more well-mannered. There's plenty of assholes in both camps. |
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