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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:40:36 GMT -5
What about if a random person walks up to you and gives you a sandwich? I'd say that's free, woudn't you? sure, but there's the calores you get from eating the sandwhich and the wrath you incur from people who hate sandwhiches
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:41:09 GMT -5
sure, but there's the calores you get from eating the sandwhich and the wrath you incur from people who hate sandwhiches and the chance, however small, from getting trichinosis from the sandwhich
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:41:53 GMT -5
and the wrath you incur from people who hate sandwhiches and the chance, however small, from getting trichinosis from the sandwhich and the fact that i'm deliberately misspelling sandwhich
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:42:08 GMT -5
and the chance, however small, from getting trichinosis from the sandwhich and the fact that i'm deliberately misspelling sandwhich no really...sandwhich
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Post by Noah on Mar 13, 2009 20:42:14 GMT -5
What about if a random person walks up to you and gives you a sandwich? I'd say that's free, woudn't you? sure, but there's the calores you get from eating the sandwhich But that's why we eat, for the calories. Or maybe it's a low-fat Subway sandwich. Yeah, that's it. It's healthy with veggies and turkey so no red meat clogging your arteries.
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:42:38 GMT -5
and the fact that i'm deliberately misspelling sandwhich no really...sandwhich and the coast of eating that sandwhich instead of another sandwhich
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 20:43:01 GMT -5
sure, but there's the calores you get from eating the sandwhich But that's why we eat, for the calories. Or maybe it's a low-fat subway sandwich. Yeah, that's it. It's healthy with veggies and turkey so no red meat clogging your arteries. you could have gotten blimpies...that's a cost
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Post by Noah on Mar 13, 2009 20:44:27 GMT -5
Are you channeling the spirit of Axe and/or Angel? If so THE POWER OF INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION COMPELS YOU! THE POWER OF INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION COMPELS YOU!
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Post by Padre Romero on Mar 13, 2009 22:20:44 GMT -5
Very well, excerpt from my address at the honors general conference on my (Jesuit) campus
"I thought this would be a good time to state my three questions in their entirety...ben mentioned atheism this morning, and we've all seen my rivals systematically deconstructing them on Facebook (and been submitted to the tide of hatemail that ensued.) My questions have taken many forms, but ultimately they all boil down to questions of epistemology (and, I'm becoming more and more convinced, are all really asking the same question). I've posed them to priests, laypeople, and even a writer for a theology column of a major catholic magazine (he never wrote back).
I think too many people assume these are questions like "Why is there evil in the world if god is all powerful?" or "can god create a rock so big that not even he could lift it?". They generally assume these questions are lodged at THEIR faith, and beat it to death with the typical response ("Faithfaithfaithgodcandoanything")
I'm a big fan of those questions (because I like to piss people off), but these are genuinely aimed at MY faith, not theirs, I am not 'testing your faith', I'm discovering my own
..generally, I'm asking something like "how do you know this for a fact and I don't?". I also believe (usually) that there are good answers to these questions, C.S. Lewis, or the pope, could presumably give me a good answer. I usually say that my break with God occurred not because of some terrible tragedy in my life, but because around sophomore year of high school, I realized I didn't have a reliable channel of communication with him. Then I segway into these questions. I'm going to assume that you're all smart enough to not misinterpret them, so they won't have their usual lengthy explanation."
Number one: How did Abraham know he wasn't crazy, and that it was therefore okay to kill Isaac? (By far the most commonly misunderstood question...people usually think I asked something like "Isn't god evil because he told Abraham to kill Isaac?" and respond accordingly. People also don't seem to understand that this is a valid question even if the particular story is an allegory.)"
"2: Furthermore, how can we tell the works of god (Be they miracles or prophecy) from the works of Satan, Chance, or a really good illusionist?"
"3: The previous two questions are usually answered by the invocation of faith...this is acceptable, but it's no sure way to make converts from outside the faith...especially since this is a free market of ideas and I'm bombarded daily by multiple faiths who all want me to join them. My third question is simply: Why should I believe you over every other person who is invoking faith?"
"I don't deny that "Faith" can be used as a valid response to just about every question you could ever pose against religious belief. What upsets me is that there appear to be consequences...in fact, dire consequences, for lacking faith, and assuming "Crazy" over "God", or believing the resurrection account of Paracelsus over Jesus.
And God, if he exists, seems to have declined to provide me with any. "
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Post by Argo on Mar 14, 2009 1:36:07 GMT -5
I'm a person that strongly opposes faith in the metaphysical but understands and respects it. I also try to use skills and what I've learned through observing people to answer every question of this nature.
Theory for question 1: Perhaps Abraham thought it was the best or right thing to do. I've found people can't tell the difference between "best thing to do" and "right thing to do".
Answer for question 2: Unless there's a "winner" in the war between faith and science/sheer logic we will never no unless it's the work of an illusionist. Illusionists need to add ham to all of their cheesey acts.
Answer to question 3: Don't believe anyone. Follow what you think is right. If you think what some person says is the greatest thing ever, go right ahead and join them and what they follow. Simple version: the only absolute is whatever you want it to be. Life is what you make it. You control your reality and nobody has the right to take that away.
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Post by Argo on Mar 14, 2009 1:45:45 GMT -5
They'll steal your PB and J and feed it to their dogs. Just thought of a mission for the bored Maltonians of this thread! Give a dog some Laffy Taffy and time how long it takes for the dog to eat it. Whoever records the longest time wins a used shoe I found on a power line! Hint: Smaller dogs might take longer because of mouth size. My time is 6 minutes, 29 seconds. GO!
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Post by Definitely Not Axe Hack on Mar 14, 2009 6:59:30 GMT -5
My dog took one bite. Now it won't eat anymore. It's been 12 hours already...
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Post by Angel on Mar 14, 2009 10:38:21 GMT -5
Did anyone hear that?
Also, thanks a lot assholes, now I want a meatball sub. : (
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Post by winka on Mar 14, 2009 10:44:53 GMT -5
I'm trying to learn 4, count 'em, 4 instruments at the same time without the help of anyone. Do it yourself books are allowed for chords and such but I'm letting my strumming technique just develop on its own. 1-Guitar, so far so good... I've pretty much just been going through my i-pod and playing the easy guitar parts of the songs I like. I've got "Big Rock Candy Mountains" from "O, brother, where art though" down melodically, just working on the chords now. 2- Banjo, going okayish.. *Feels faint * I DO have a weakness for Guitar music and the guys who play it ;D ...and Banjos!?!?. *reaches back for the wall to steady self.*
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Post by Angel on Mar 14, 2009 10:53:27 GMT -5
Watch out Noah, Winka may try to raep you.
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