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Post by Animatronic Daemon Skwerral on Sept 21, 2006 10:53:18 GMT -5
Stepped back to Rodgers and looked out with my binoculars and spied 53 zombies there. I'd love to go and help but I'm currently trying to hold Adalbert.
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Post by Sir Fred of Etruria on Sept 21, 2006 19:08:59 GMT -5
Forget all this Philosophical discussion.
We got a hull-breach at the flagship Blackmore, and honest zombies killed me !
So refreshing to be eaten and not PKed.
You won't believe it, but I think they're organized !
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Post by Ron Burgundy on Sept 21, 2006 20:16:19 GMT -5
If people see an empty suburb, they won't really understand our strength. I think we've got the extra men to spread out a bit and flex our muscles. Of course, when more zombies come, we can just draw everyone back to Blackmore. You're absolutely right, we won't survive a larger attack while spread out, but there's no intention to be spread out when that larger attack comes! What's more, if we focus 100% on our little fortresses, that big attack might not come and things might be written off as less than they really are. Thanks for the input, I've got to have someone to check my optimism. Hope that clarifies things!  Yeah, I stopped by there today. Three survivors, three zombies, no barricades. I did something about the barricades, but that took all the AP I had left. Seems to me like we're going to lose all our resource buildings, one by one, and then promptly retake them, one by one. The RRF have the advantage in that they can appear outside a PD or a hospital suddenly and destroy the place- we don't know when they're going to strike or where and we don't have the strength to defend them all (that really would be spreading ourselves too thin). It's just as well, though, since they don't have the numbers to hold them and we can just take things back. It's probably a good idea not to sleep in resource buildings, but if there are no zombies inside Blackmore and you've got some ammo, hospitals and PDs are prime hunting ground! Also, like it's been said, we've already displayed our ability to subsist on nothing but revives, and that was when we were outnumbered 3:1. We should still fight them for the resource buildings, though. It'll keep them from declaring a victory and ignoring us and... well... this place is kinda our suburb, now. |
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Post by HannibalAtTheGates on Sept 21, 2006 21:24:34 GMT -5
I still strongly oppose this move. We should fall back with our full strength to the Blackmore and Nichols, or we won't survive the coming of the Big Bash. The Revive Point is not the most important subject right now, as we can, with some management, organise temporary Revivication Session around the Blackmore, if we want. Spreading out, like you just said (in game), Ron, is not the best thing the Bastards could do. Imagine ten buildings with ten defenders, that are being broken into, cleared out and ransacked, with the defenders thereafter shambling towards Margery's, and compare that to a hundred of Bastards helping the defenders of Nichols. This is my opinion on the matter. I hope someone else with me sees the need for a concentrated defence. Spreading out is a thing to do after the R.R.F. (if they ever would give up) pulls out, not a thing to do nów. If the Big Bash does come our way or if the RRF puts the full force of all its strike forces against Blackmore or Nichols then we'll pull in on these buildings, which we should be able to do pretty quickly should the need arise. Until then, let's go ahead and spread out in Ridleybank - the safer and more secure we can make it the more survivors we will draw to our cause, which can only help us. Also, the spreading of our numbers will cause the zeds to spread out their numbers as well. |
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Post by robinrobinson on Sept 22, 2006 5:54:12 GMT -5
If people see an empty suburb, they won't really understand our strength. I think we've got the extra men to spread out a bit and flex our muscles. Of course, when more zombies come, we can just draw everyone back to Blackmore. You're absolutely right, we won't survive a larger attack while spread out, but there's no intention to be spread out when that larger attack comes! What's more, if we focus 100% on our little fortresses, that big attack might not come and things might be written off as less than they really are. Thanks for the input, I've got to have someone to check my optimism. Hope that clarifies things! Well, the problem is that we don't exactly know how long it will take before the Big Bash strands here. There are indicators, ofcourse, but what if they decide (and I'm sure they can), out of the blue, to invade Ridleybank? I didn't suggest to abandon the other buildings straight away, I never would. Yet I think, barricade strafing (although more 'cowardy' than occupying) is the best solution for the problem. |
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Post by ian on Sept 22, 2006 10:17:17 GMT -5
if the big bash comes i propose we just all move into blackmore, we can hold ridleybank for quite awihle if we get the revives. we can cade strafe from there also, which ties up other zombies who mindlessy bash down un-inhabited resource buildings
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Post by HannibalAtTheGates on Sept 22, 2006 16:11:34 GMT -5
Maybe we should get 10 scouts to follow after the Big Bash and help out hit suburbs just to monitor it. I'd send an alt out there. Any other takers?
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Post by gotchabiotch on Sept 22, 2006 16:26:33 GMT -5
OK, I'm new at this, and I may be stating an old idea, but...
Has anyone tried to keep a "blacklist" of PKers/GKers/Zeds who should be killed, or passed over for revives? It wouldn't be hard to let everyone know about the list. A little graffiti, some radio broadcasting...
That kind of organization, it seems, is what survivors lack in this game, and it's what we would need to have a chance at turning the tide on the zombies.
[edit]I'd be willing to set it up and maintain it, if there's enough interest.[/edit]
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Post by Hec Scrivener on Sept 22, 2006 16:30:08 GMT -5
Yes, you are new at this. Check out the BBBPK List thread, right here in this forum.
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Post by gotchabiotch on Sept 22, 2006 16:34:33 GMT -5
I was thinking of a more organized list, hosted somewhere else as a plain HTML page, perhaps searchable like the DEM Rogues Gallery...that thread could be used as the start of it, but it's awfully time-consuming to read through a thread once it gets long. If we had a searchable list, you could check each profile as you DNA scan, to make sure it's not listed as an enemy.
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Post by marty on Sept 22, 2006 16:47:51 GMT -5
I think that would be be a big help.
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Post by Smithy Jones on Sept 22, 2006 16:53:34 GMT -5
I hate to say this but I think the Big bash and RRF: Group 0 already know that if they do attack, that we will fall back to Blackmore if either of them come to Ridleybank
It is just that we are gonna need people to go get 1-2 generators and 1-2 gerry cans when they go to restock on Ammo and FAKs cause GKers and Zombies are goning to go after those first chance they get
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Post by Ron Burgundy on Sept 22, 2006 19:12:05 GMT -5
You're right, robinrobinson, they could just show up out of nowhere. Of course, that would take a lot of coordination and the BB definitely doesn't have that. They've got so many people that they can't even control where they go- the leaders target one suburb and then the 8 suburbs around it get destroyed. I mean, there were BB people attacking Caiger when the leaders were saying they wouldn't even hit Ackland. They definitely don't have the coordination to just stop dead in their tracks and run a few suburbs south. Of course, they could, but it's a risk worth taking if spreading out to the rest of Ridleybank draws more attention from all sides.
The RRF might have been able to do something like that, in their height, but probably not anymore. They're trying their best to ignore us officially while they're attacking us with damn near everything they've got.
Anyhow, if they do show up out of nowhere, they'll have the element of surprise and they'd be fools to waste that on a bunch of clubs and churches! Likewise, they'd be fools to waste it on the Blackmore, which could probably withstand whatever shock they throw at it. I think that if they get the jump on us, they're going one place: Nichols! Perhaps we should consider doing something about that.
I've actually got to think about this, some. The RRF know they can't win at Blackmore, so they've taken the fight to the streets, where they've got things more on their terms. They say it's to cut us off, but it's as much about that as it is finding some small victory in Ridleybank. We could try fighting them to deny them even this, or we could pull back to Nichols and Blackmore, which would force them to fight us on our terms- if they would fight us at all, at that point. Of course, if they leave, we can move out again, but there's no decisive victory in that- and it's a decisive victory that we need! That's why we've been taking these risks! Going to Ridleybank was not enough and neither was surviving. We need to draw them into a larger fight and I'm not sure that playing things safe is the way to do that. Any other ideas on this? I could use some input! I'm in a pickle, here!
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Post by Rockby Quickfoot on Sept 22, 2006 19:31:26 GMT -5
Well, I agree with Ron's sentiment. If the bash headed our way, Nichols would be getting the spillover. And I have a feeling it wouldn't last long either. I've been down here the last few days and we're undermanned and have frequent zombie break-ins. Course we just throw em right back out, but that's beside the point. I saw what the Bash did to Marven and Blesley, and those malls had more defenders than Nichols does I do believe. Should the Bash come I've little doubt that Nichols would go down unless properly re-inforced.
On the other hand, I don't know what to think of the Blackmore. I heard about the Moorish holding out against the Bash with somewhere around 200 survivors if my memory serves correctly. That's about how many are in Blackmore right now (or at least last time I was up there a few days ago. Might be a few less if anyone else moved down here to Nichols like I asked em to) I don't know how it would stand up to the Bash.
In all honesty, I think that if the whole of the Bash comes, we should gather supplies ahead of time in Nichols and the other resource buildings, and move into the Blackmore. Like Ron said, if the Bash was coming, we'd most likely know ahead of time. It's not like they're just going to be sneaking up on us.
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Post by marty on Sept 22, 2006 20:38:53 GMT -5
Well I'm not going to underestimate the RRF. Patrucio seems to be a much more capable leader than Sonny was (Which wouldn't be hard.) A lot less obnoxious too which will strengthen his leadership. (I have a theory that people won't follow asshats, even if they are representing their interests)
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