Blackmore Tactical Thread

[masterhammond2]

I think we DO need to expand and take more of Ridleybank, but we CAN NOT lose the Blackmore building. But at the same time, we can't retreat because then the RRF will use it to say how strong they are. I think we should send for more reinforcements from the nearby suburbs. I was at Treeweeke Mall during the siege, and we had several hundred survivors defending the one mall. We're currently defending Blackmore with just about 135 and 35 or so zeds (including me) waiting for revives. I don't think we can take the rest of the suburb without more people.

[Animatronic Daemon Skwerral]

I havent CR'ed in a while because ive been out of needles. When you do CR's make sure you read the profile of the zombie.
Good CR cannidate - www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=606767
Bad CR cannidate - www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=452437
of course is you do anything to the nub (headshot or revive) then theyre going to bitch, so no matter what your meta/griefer/zerger.

their arguement of not wanting the CR is odd in my eyes because they dont want it and bitch about it because it takes them away from being a zombie yet dont take the skill that stops 80% of CR's. theyre also going through extreme lengths for the case of a CR by supposedly covering themselves in shotguns (classic quote against CR'ing "OMFGG DONT CR ZOMBIE HSOT GUNS SHOT GUNS ZOMEBIEASFGAA SDFASFAF) which would take them away from their zombie longer. So it looks liek they want the CR which would defeat their entire purpose for being a zombie. I think it comes down to high level zombies having human envy and just needing an excuse to go be a death cultist. There doesnt need to be an excuse for chaos. i respect pure asshats more because theyre likely getting a kick out of it than crusaders who think that they have to uphold a moral code.

Ever since the RRF condoned Death Culting, we're seeing a shift from Human Vs Zombie to Faction Vs Faction, where both sides are going to use every means possible (Proxy Death Cults + Zombie Hordes) to defeat the other. Right now our situation is Human VS Faction from a result of the RRF not being able to drive us out as zombies so theyve turned to Death Culting and enlisting groups like Apoc Horde, PH, and Red Rum. The RRF is in the same situation as Rome was in their last days and is relying more on other groups to defend them from the Pagan Hordes, so i dont think its a surprise its turned to Human Vs Faction.

As for the actual situation of Riddleybank, i did alot of scouting for PK'ers and didnt find any in north eastern part of the Suburb. Alot of buildings are caded up to EXH which is good to see. The entry points are still a slight problem but its better than before. they are hitting the Hospitals and PD pretty hard.

We should start a slow advance of securing resource buildings. First Adalbert Hospital, then Bloomfield PD, then Margaret Hospital etc etc. The glorious battle has moved from blackmore to the surrounding resource buildings. Leave Blackmore to the "feral" humans.

[Tovarisch Khrushchev]

I'd love to join in the crusade throughout greater Ridleybank, but I'm a medic and my services are best used closest to the revive point. I'll move with whatever group goes to the closest resource to Margery and stick with them, dropping in on other buildings to heal from time to time.

Let the conquest begin you bastards!

[zombiemcallen]

I logged back onto Urban Dead after several weeks of absence to break into the Blackmore building with an alt. I managed to drag a survivor to his doom, but was sorry to find that the Padre and Ron were not in the building. I have to say, that this zombie is disappointed.

[Tovarisch Khrushchev]

Heh, they might not be in here, but the rest of us classy bastards are!

Good to see you again zombiemcallen, its been a while.

[Padre Romero]

Ah sorry old friend, I pride myself on being elusive. I've been in one place for far too long...

[gotchabiotch]

www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=617782

I'm swaying about at Margery Avenue...somebody want to revive me?

Also, BTW, just so you know...Blackmore's doors are wide open.

[iamrisen]

Fangleader: The reason why I seek revives is straight-up AP efficiency. I can do more damage as a revived human than I can as a zombie, under certain circumstances. I'm not offended by being revived; I'm a dedicated zombie and use any and all means necessary to turn live bodies into not-live bodies. Being revived means I get to bypass the cades, and you all have to burn your hard-earned AP kicking me out. That's it.

I think you're partially right about the faction versus faction thing, but I haven't seen many unabashedly pro-survivor groups utilize zombies in their ranks. The sole exception is the rotter revive clinics, who use zombies to maintain the ransacks in their designated NT buildings to prevent griefer barricading.

The way I see it, a given group is either pro-survivor or anti-survivor. Pretty much all of your zombie groups are anti-survivor; they want Malton to be free of warm bodies. Then you've got the BBB, which is obviously pro-survivor; you all want warm bodies present.

I think it's been empirically proven that undead members are virtually useless to most pro-survivor groups; the fact that the Blackmore Building, the only NT building in Ridleybank, is at the center of the Ridleybank campaign proves this. Without readily available syringes, you can't hold the suburb. And without an NT building, you can't get syringes. Think about it; are there any dedicated BBB members who are also dedicated zombies? Or does every Bastard dutifully proceed to the revive queue upon assuming room temperature?

And what the hell are you talking about? I am an EXCELLENT revive candidate.

[fondoryards]

There's a JimmyCrack, www.urbandead.com/profile.cgi?id=140023, I have him on my Zed list. If he is one, someone take care of him, outta AP for now.

[ian]

1 zombie inside cades a QS

i only had 7ap so yer... go sort it out please

[Hec Scrivener]

Blackmore clear, heavily barricaded, but I'm out of ammo - is a PD up and running nearby, or is it back to Nichols for me?

fangleader said:

The RRF is in the same situation as Rome was in their last days and is relying more on other groups to defend them from the Pagan Hordes...

There are so many things historically wrong with that statement I'm just going to weep.

[Padre Romero]

How are we holding out guys, I'm far away, but I've heard some disturbing news?

[Animatronic Daemon Skwerral]

Fangleader: The reason why I seek revives is straight-up AP efficiency. I can do more damage as a revived human than I can as a zombie, under certain circumstances. I'm not offended by being revived; I'm a dedicated zombie and use any and all means necessary to turn live bodies into not-live bodies. Being revived means I get to bypass the cades, and you all have to burn your hard-earned AP kicking me out. That's it.

I've got nothing against that. However, I don't think you are a dedicated zombie rather someone who is dedicated to the zombie cause. My issue with the RRF'ers is the hypocracy when they say they're the best zombie group in the game but are all too eager to go out of their way to use Death Culting. Also, I see it as a bad use of AP to stock up on weapons, then go
play zombie, and hope for a CR, when dedicated Death Culting, like what you do, will yield more direct results than leaving it open for the viarable of a CR (no matter how high).

I think you're partially right about the faction versus faction thing, but I haven't seen many unabashedly pro-survivor groups utilize zombies in their ranks. The sole exception is the rotter revive clinics, who use zombies to maintain the ransacks in their designated NT buildings to prevent griefer barricading.

The way I see it, a given group is either pro-survivor or anti-survivor. Pretty much all of your zombie groups are anti-survivor; they want Malton to be free of warm bodies. Then you've got the BBB, which is obviously pro-survivor; you all want warm bodies present.

Good way of broadening what I said, and it's absolutely correct. I was thinking of a non-zombie group like PH that will use zombies and humans to attack but this against survivors so yeah its Anti-Survivor Vs Pro-Survivor.

I think it's been empirically proven that undead members are virtually useless to most pro-survivor groups; the fact that the Blackmore Building, the only NT building in Ridleybank, is at the center of the Ridleybank campaign proves this. Without readily available syringes, you can't hold the suburb. And without an NT building, you can't get syringes. Think about it; are there any dedicated BBB members who are also dedicated zombies? Or does every Bastard dutifully proceed to the revive queue upon assuming room temperature?

You're the only Dedicated Zombie BBB member I see.

And what the hell are you talking about? I am an EXCELLENT revive candidate.

I'll revive you the next time i'm at the revive point and only if you bow down on your knees and beg Saddam for his help and swear on the eyes of your children you will never attack Saddam.

There are so many things historically wrong with that statement I'm just going to weep.

what?Roman Empire they did rely heavily on alliances to fill in their ranks and try and make up for their diminishing strength of the roman legions moreso than earlier. Pagan Horde, i had hesitations about using that because Rome was technically Pagan yet Christism was on the rise, but I thought Germanic Tribes as the contributing factor to the fall of Rome, so thats how Pagan Horde was decided on.

[Rockby Quickfoot]

I agree with us spreading out to neighboring resource buildings. We also have to split our forces to defending Nichols. Nichols is our big supply train. We can't have it go down. Another thing that we may have to watch out is the new show of organization that the RRF is going to attempt. I read their forums a few days ago and they were all trying to organize strike teams. We need to watch out for this kind of stuff. If they get 20 zombies inside Blackmore at once we'll be a bit more hard pressed to get rid of em, especially since we've lost 20 members in the last 2 or 3 days. Though, a lot of them might just be casualties that haven't been revived yet since they stuff our revive point with rotters In any case, if the RRF gets really organized with these strike teams I think it would be in our better interest to pull back from outlying resource buildings and into the Blackmore and Nichols. Until they do though, party on!


EDIT: I just pulled up the wiki map and noticed Dakerstown is now a gray suburb. Can someone update me on what gray means?

YET ANOTHER EDIT: A group of 10 just broke in and our now wreaking havoc. I had a few AP so I barricaded what I could (two times yipee) and then I was being attacked by the dang things. I briefly wrote a message about how they can go straight to hell and well, I'm assuming I'm probably dead by now. Maybe they're a bit more organized already. Somebody fill that breach in the cades!

[iamrisen]

fangleader said:

I've got nothing against that. However, I don't think you are a dedicated zombie rather someone who is dedicated to the zombie cause. My issue with the RRF'ers is the hypocracy when they say they're the best zombie group in the game but are all too eager to go out of their way to use Death Culting. Also, I see it as a bad use of AP to stock up on weapons, then go play zombie, and hope for a CR, when dedicated Death Culting, like what you do, will yield more direct results than leaving it open for the viarable of a CR (no matter how high).

I see what you mean about dedicated to the zombie cause. The way I see it, survivors and zombies are just the same thing in different states of being, like ice versus water versus steam. What matters are the goals. Zombie-prone people favor entropy, survivor-prone people want less entropy. All I do is move back and forth between states of being to do things that I couldn't otherwise do as a zombie. Brain Rot would eliminate this option. I don't search for ammo that often because, like you said, it tends to be AP-inefficient. This is why I just GK whenever I get revived; I ran out of ammo long ago. If I've got the AP, I hack away at people who are 1. Low on HP, and 2. Have Construction and Lab Experience. Then I let you all burn AP kicking me out.

If I'm not doing anything else, though, like if there's no major seige going on, I'll load up on ammo to go on a PK rush later.

Also, the RRF = a bunch of noobs.

Good way of broadening what I said, and it's absolutely correct. I was thinking of a non-zombie group like PH that will use zombies and humans to attack but this against survivors so yeah its Anti-Survivor Vs Pro-Survivor.

Cool. "Anti-zombie vs. Pro-zombie" doesn't make much sense; there really isn't an effective way to make zombies go away.

You're the only Dedicated Zombie BBB member I see.

I'm not a dedicated zombie! Anyone who says otherwise is a dirty, dirty liar. I am a nice human, and I get PK'd constantly, so it just LOOKS like I'm a dedicated zombie because I'm a zombie most of the time.

I'll revive you the next time i'm at the revive point and only if you bow down on your knees and beg Saddam for his help and swear on the eyes of your children you will never attack Saddam.

I swear that I will not, nor am I presently, nor have I ever, attacked Saddam. Also, there is no need to fear the RRF; they are committing suicide at the gates of Ridleybank rather than face the terror that is the Blackmore Bastard Brigade. In fact, there are no zombies in Ridleybank. Except me, because I'm still waiting for a revive.

Actually, I'm on the ground. I'll get up in a little bit.