Blackmore Tactical Thread

[Die Hard Girlyman]

i happened to leave 2 alts in the same building, both of which are low level. The only reason they were both there is because I ran out of IP hits last night, and was planning to move them out. I guess by techinical defenition that is zerging, but are you really going to bitch about free experience points? as one is level 2 and the other is level one? come on get real

[elizabethvignelli]

Actually, yeah, I think I'm going to bitch about it because harmanz, and especially the BBB, like to expound about how honorable they are and how they keep it "clean," but your actions are clearly to the contrary. Doesn't matter that you hit the IP limit - you had to make a conscious decision to bring both of them to Ridleybank (I'd be shocked if they both spawned there when created, but it's possible), where you already had at least one other character. So...that's kind of the definition of zerging. Pretty cut and dried.

So much for "honor."

[Die Hard Girlyman]

Okay, i tried being nice about it, but you've just crossed the line

1) if you gunna bring honor into this lets not forget the notorious RRF bringing in PKing alts to try to weaken us, yet we didnt bitch at all, and took it in stride
2) shacknews was also known to have a few guys with as many as four in the area at the time, yet we didn't claim that the only reason we lost was because of guys with alts attacking cades. We haven't raised a stink at all, yet when i ACCIDENTALLY leave a level 2 and level 1 charecter in the same building because of an IP limit error of judgement on my part you go out on your moral crusade saying how I'm throwing off the balance of the game. OOH yeah, be afraid, I'm gunna freerun the entire RRF to death. You got what you wanted, I moved them out.

in closing, kindly shut the fuck up

[elizabethvignelli]

Oops, I guess I hit a sore spot about the double standard you've got going.

P.S. You didn't move them out, we killed them. Two entirely different things.

[Die Hard Girlyman]

no, you didnt, you killed murray gay. I moved dickhole spy out and now hes dead from infection.

and you wanna talk about double standards? Seems to me the RRF wiki EXPLICITILY says that they dont condone zerging or spying. so, i guess since your mr technicality, i guess you having an account here is technically spying, cut and dried.

I could understand your concern if the two charecters actually posed a threat, and I'd agree. But your trying to say that i had malicious intent because of a simple accident.

Hmm, it seems you have a paradox here, as you claim we have double standards, well by posting here your propegating a double standard. Your more than welcome here. but come on, really, come on.

[elizabethvignelli]

Well, when you can cite to me where the RRF prohibitions about zerging and spying extend to the metagame, you just might have a point. Unfortunately, you won't be able to, because that's not what Petrosjko said (straight from the Wiki):

Our policy on this is VERY specific- we do not want our members telling us what they've learned from survivor alts, ESPECIALLY if this information is derived from membership in another group.

Hmm...nothing about the metagame there, just the actual game. The RRF has never had any problems with openly visiting and posting on other boards, harman or otherwise. Harmanz come to our boards to spy and annoy, so turnabout is fair play. Nice try, though.

[Die Hard Girlyman]

also...right off the wiki

Using Multies against the one opponent is dishonourable. It is also against the letter and spirit of the game rules, even though there is no technical method for preventing it from happening. Thus the only constraints for it happening are the social ones.- Hungerer (Warcouncil Member), from the same discussion.

hmm your gunna ridicule us for using alts (in my case accidentally) yet it seems to me that every day during the siege you guys violated it. daily. You have yet to address this, and you wont. you know why? because your a hypocrit. so uh yeah, kinda sanctimonious of you to accuse me of doing what you guys do daily, yet fail to acknowledge this ugly truth.

[elizabethvignelli]

I didn't address it because I have no idea what you're talking about. Elaborate, please?

[Die Hard Girlyman]

oh please, your actually going to tell me that you all weren't behind some of the PKing attempts with your alts. you don't believe me, ask anyone on this board. I highly doubt they'll say you guys fought fair, thats all I'm going to say about that. Tell ya what, go back to the RRF boards and tell them about just how unfair I made the game by having 2 charecters with a combined level of three.

Yes, what i did is technically considered zerging. But I think most reasonable people would let it go, as it posed no threat and theyre each dead. but to insinuate that a simple accident is dishonorable, or that I had malicious intent is rediculous. So, here are your choices right now

1) come out and say directly that having 2 alts (with a whopping combined level of three) in the same building on an IP hit accident tarnishes the honor of this group because it significantly altered the play of the game during this crucial stage in events

or

2) admit your blowing this issue way out of proportion, hang your head in shame and admit that I'm right, and apologize.

I refuse to dignify any more of your posts with a response, because you say the exact same thing in all of them that having 2 low level alts in the same building is tarnishing the class that this group has played with. Seems to me you just want to stir up trouble and arouse anger. So, I leave you with this last thought

You'd do well to get the sand out of your vagina

xoxoxoxo,
~DHG~

[elizabethvignelli]

I'm so glad that you've descended to the level of insults to attempt to prove your point. It only helps my position.

The only PKers associated with the RRF at Blackmore were the Gore Corps, a fully sanctioned Death Cultist group. I'm a member of the War Council and I can honestly say that aside from that, there was no approved non-combat revive PKing going on. What any ferals or opportunist PKing groups like Red Rum did there is beyond our scope of influence. And any combat revive-related PKing is the harmanz' own damn fault for being combat revivers, and if you want to argue about that issue, bring it on. Personally, I've had Brain Rot for months so I don't have to deal with CRing.

The technical details of your situation aren't nearly as important as the fact that it is indeed zerging and you don't seem to have a problem with it - you're actually trying to defend yourself, despite the fact that there's no way it was an accident. That's the bottom line, and that's what tarnishes your little honor badge you like to strut about wearing.

[ian]

the apocalypse hoarde?!!? thats the RRF in revived form and proud of it

[elizabethvignelli]

The Apocalypse Horde isn't part of the RRF. Though Auxunit 10 did go down to give them an assist in Tollyton a few weeks ago. (Though now that I think about it, it makes me wonder if they're still doing the PKing thing - they were all in zambah form in Tollyton.)

[Die Hard Girlyman]

mhm. so based on your logic....

Because of an dumbass mistake, the entire NMC condones zerging. Believe me, if it did, the seige of blackmore would still be going on. I dont have a problem with what i did because it was an accident. I have no problem saying you have sand in your vagina, because you do. Your making the biggest deal out of a small error of judgement, so here you go

I MADE A MISTAKE! LOOK LOOK! EVERYONE LOOK! DICKHOLE GUY HAD 2 CHARECTERS IN THE SAME BUILDING!!! OMGWTFBBQ LETS MAKE A BIG DEAL OUT OF IT DESPITE THE FACT THAT THE RRF HAS BEEN ACCUSED OF THESE IN THE PAST AND REFUSES TO ACKNOLWEDGE THEM.

your more than welcome here. but come on, making claims like this just sets you up to be flamed. Yes i had to charecters in the same building, yes its technically zerging, do i do it often? no. why do you make such a big deal out of something like this it was an accident. give it a rest

[ian]

elizabeth, pretty much every RRf zombie we CRed at the start of the siege was apocalypse hoarde. yes i know theres alot of you and alot dont use the forums and follow the rules its the same with us

but we saw too many to make it a co-incidence

[elizabethvignelli]

And you're...how old? 5?

I just responded to your accusation, and you ignored it to continue in your efforts to deflect attention from what the real point of this argument is: you got caught with your hand in the cookie jar, and now you're trying to cast aspersions on everyone else. It's not like this issue started today - it's been going on for weeks on both sides, boiling just under the surface. Your actions only confirm our conclusions.

ian, like I said, the Apocalypse Horde isn't part of the RRF. It may have been started by former RRF members - I don't know for sure, but they've got their own forums, etc. and really don't have anything to do with us. Therefore RRF zambahz != Apocalypse Horde. If they were at Blackmore, it's because there were brains to be had.