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Post by Noah on Jun 6, 2009 18:59:31 GMT -5
*inhale from joint* *exhale* ohmmmmmm... |
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Post by Leon Silverblood on Jun 7, 2009 3:46:15 GMT -5
Avoiding drowning in a sea of micro-details and buffing up my crystal ball. And here we go, RIGHT back to the cameras in the bathroom. |
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Post by jimmymoog on Jun 7, 2009 14:21:47 GMT -5
Avoiding drowning in a sea of micro-details and buffing up my crystal ball. And here we go, RIGHT back to the cameras in the bathroom. Actually, we're pretty proud of the toilet camera. Making it small enough to remain unnoticed while solid enough to remain in place during flushing proved quite challenging. |
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Post by MAJOR TOM B on Jun 7, 2009 18:18:05 GMT -5
time travel does exist the ones who come back just cant participate in actions or be seen, only observe ( we just think of them as ghosts and spirits ) so the feeling of someone watching you OR YOUR NOT ALONE is correct they report back all you do ! so be carefull !!! they know you did that here is proof ready a member of yours Posts: 16,777,215 Karma: 8,388,606  |
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Post by Padre Romero on Jul 17, 2009 23:08:17 GMT -5
Unless you take into account the alternate time line theory... The universe is made up of an infinite number of parallel time lines. Each moment in history is parallel with every other moment in history on every other time line. Thus time travel wouldn't be the travel back in time, but the travel sideways in the infinite time lines. . Me and Hec (remember Hec) disproved the existence of parallel universes back in sixth grade...it was mostly his doing, and is rather similar to Jimmy Moog's argument, it can also be illustrated, oddly enough, off of the number pi, here goes: IF parallel universes exist as per pretty much any incarnation they take in science or science fiction, THEN there would have to be an infinite number of them (There are an infinite number of novel number combinations inside the number PI, it never terminates or repeats) IF there were an infinite number of them, THEN any event which does not defy the laws of physics, however statistically unlikely, would have to be Possible (Any number combination, no matter how big, exists somewhere in Pi) To put this another way, there's a universe out there where every poker game in the history of the universe involved someone getting a royal flush. IF travel, or any method of interaction, between parallel universes is not against the laws of physics, THEN it must, somewhere in the infinite worlds, have happened. (The number combination 61616352111114 exists somewhere in Pi) IF there are really an infinite number of worlds, THEN it must have happened an infinite number of times. (The number combination 61613521111114 happens an infinite number of times somewhere in PI) IF it happened an infinite number of times, THEN there would be an interaction between a parallel universe and this one at every possible point in space and time...there's not just one guy opening a door between worlds, there's an infinite number of him. IF there's a way to open a door between worlds or such nonsense,the odds are "1" that someone will open such a door, in your room, right...NOW! (And everywhere and everywhen else) Since it hasn't happened, we can conclude there's no way to interact with "Parallel worlds" In which case, they're just a fun thought experiment and will never have any bearing on our daily lives. PS: I'm watching you all |
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Post by Magatsu Taito on Jul 18, 2009 10:53:09 GMT -5
But if the differences between these parallel worlds would most likely not be anything big, how would you know if you've slipped into one?
Sure, there is the chance of you bumping into yourself, but if these switches happen all the time, that could also mean that the world shifts constantly for everyone. Maybe often enough for the odds of someone bumping into themselves becoming minuscule?
I like these thought experiments though. They keep you on edge.
Also: If the time travel occurred we'd most likely have an accelerated development of the everything. People carrying diseases from the future and past. Technology, environmental impact because of exploitation of the past, even evolution could be accelerated by crossbreeding between time-lines.
Edit: Time-lines, or points in time I suppose.
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Post by winka on Jul 18, 2009 17:15:43 GMT -5
 !! This conversation has gone somewhere past Pluto.
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Post by Padre Romero on Jul 18, 2009 20:47:21 GMT -5
But if the differences between these parallel worlds would most likely not be anything big, how would you know if you've slipped into one? Sure, there is the chance of you bumping into yourself, but if these switches happen all the time, that could also mean that the world shifts constantly for everyone. Maybe often enough for the odds of someone bumping into themselves becoming minuscule? I like these thought experiments though. They keep you on edge. If the difference is "So small you'll never notice", then it doesn't make sense to talk about it as a "real thing" in the world of science. It's like saying "What if tarot cards DO work, but in such complex and nuanced ways that you can't know how until after it happens." or, to put it in terms of the debate here "What if there ARE parallel universes out there, but we'll never ever interact with them" It makes zero sense to talk about things you can never, ever know. Look at the above argument another way: - If there's an infinite number of parallel worlds then any event, however unlikely, will happen, so long as its not against the laws of physics. - Robert Sean Leonard putting on a tutu and transporting across the universes to rape you* is an event, however unlikely. - This presumably, hasn't happened. - It must be physically impossible. * (the you that you are, not some parallel universe you. The fact that we need to draw a distinction hints, to me at least, that there's another fallacy in the many worlds interpretation.) |
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Post by winka on Jul 19, 2009 16:59:29 GMT -5
I do hope you all will realize that your brainy solutions do confound and annoy.
You don't matter; in fact, I have to admit, that's the most beautiful pile of steaming crap I've seen (or heard)in quite a while. Much more and you won't even be matter!
Time is irrelevant in the seventh circle of hell. ;D
.....And welcome back Padre you have been missed .
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Post by Magatsu Taito on Jul 19, 2009 19:59:20 GMT -5
I get what you're saying Padre, the parallel universe idea is interesting as hell, but unless there some way to interact with them they're meaningless. And now I can't get the question "What does time looks like?" out of my head. A time line comes to mind, but would time travel work like that? Moving alongside a straight line. Would you move in time and space at once, or would the space remain the same? But that isn't really possible I suppose. winka: I like confounding an annoying. Sounds like a challenge.  And yeah, it's good to see you Padre. Long time, no peaking! |
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Post by winka on Jul 20, 2009 0:04:34 GMT -5
I get what you're saying Padre, the parallel universe idea is interesting as hell, but unless there some way to interact with them they're meaningless. And now I can't get the question "What does time looks like?" out of my head. A time line comes to mind, but would time travel work like that? Moving alongside a straight line. Would you move in time and space at once, or would the space remain the same? But that isn't really possible I suppose. winka: I like confounding an annoying. Sounds like a challenge. And yeah, it's good to see you Padre. Long time, no peaking! I'm not proud of it ,but I gotta be honest...I wasted 15 minutes of my life that I'll never get back just trying to read those epistles that push the boundaries of coherence. *registering impatience ,rejection,jealousy and simple disbelief.*  |
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Post by albub on Aug 3, 2009 10:17:23 GMT -5
You guys should also take into account the law of thermodynamics that states that matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you time travel, then your matter and energy would be removed from existence and an equal amount of matter and energy would be added to existence at the time you traveled too.
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Post by Noah on Aug 14, 2009 9:06:02 GMT -5
You guys should also take into account the law of thermodynamics that states that matter/energy cannot be created or destroyed. If you time travel, then your matter and energy would be removed from existence and an equal amount of matter and energy would be added to existence at the time you traveled too. Unless an equal amount of matter is exchanged between points. If you teleport to the future an amount of future junk matter is teleported back to now. -OR- Your current matter is converted into energy at this point and energy is converted into your matter at the arrived point in time. -AND- It makes zero sense to talk about things you can never, ever know. Isn't that what theology is? |
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Post by winka on Aug 19, 2009 19:04:18 GMT -5
Time travel needs us to perceive it ...I will not look until I get where I want to be. And when I do..You realize, of course, that I will be totally insufferable and you will not be able to stand me....Just thought I'd let you know.  |
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Post by Hec Scrivener on Sept 5, 2009 14:34:45 GMT -5
Hah! I'd forgotten our "parallel-splat" proof. jimmy, the problem with your proof is a hidden assumption: that there are/will be an infinite number of time travelers. If you've read this thread, you should be familiar with a theory under which there is only one. Not to mention the huge number of numbers between "one" and "infinity" that it also could be. [quote author=noah board=corner thread=2412 post= 81471 time=1250258762]Isn't that what theology is?[/quote] Romero is, shall we say, a very unusual padre. |
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