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[Dr. Killdare]

Subject: Little favour? Date: 6/30/2006 1:11:31 P.M. Eastern Subject: Little favour?
Date: 6/30/2006 1:11:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time


Hey K, could you pass this off to the Rangers and Angels on their board? I know that we don't talk nowadays, but I thought you could give me this favour, as I have been banned from their forum and obviously cannot say what I want to say.

Now now, you certainly are busy libeling my name when you think I cannot see your actions, aren’t you? Well, I’d like to point some things out that I hope this time will actually make their way into your skulls.
The Vengeance Committee was not in fact created by me. It was made by a friend of a friend. I was just bored enough to make the wiki page. If you’d actually read it, you’d realize that talking about it without the intention of joining would be rather useless. It’s not a group persay, just a name.
To that end, what does it matter that Buncy is a part of anything? He’s an upstanding person. He’s a model survivor. He did nothing wrong. Buncy is my common name online. Buncy on UD however is a nicer version of me. On the boards and IRL I mostly acted in my normal personality, which can get very emotionally attached and very upset at times. If you take action against UD Buncy, I will see to it that your groups at large are seen as promoting killing innocent survivors.
Sure sure, Cypher is also one of my characters. But isn't Cork Padre’s, and Phillip Grippy’s? You accuse me of using alts to advance my own agendas, then turn around and log onto your alts that live under your own group as well and advance your own agendas. Not obvious enough? The Rangers and Angels, especially their leaders, use alts aligned to their own groups to bolster their group numbers and advance their own agendas. Cat calling the kettle black, my friends. The only difference between our situations is that Cypher was never a part of the GBP. It does not matter that Cypher was close to Buncy, as they never interacted, and one was hardly making the area safer for the other.
I copy Padre’s character now? Check Cypher’s journal. I’m sure you have it on hand somewhere. Before I knew about Padre, before the Angels were made, before Padre even joined UD, Cypher was RPing in that character mindset. Think about it. Why do you think I chose the name Cypher Zero? Give me a little more credit here. I’ve just started recently bringing Cypher’s character out in forums is to distinguish Cypher (Not typically me) from UD Buncy (Almost me) from Buncy (Totally me).
In closing, stop thinking of yourself as the high-and-mighty defenders of freedom and me as the cheating, copying asshole. Those terms describe us both.

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[Major Grippy]

First off, I'd like to apologize to Dr. Killdare for being forced into the role of intermediary - if at any time Buncy wishes to put this issue behind us and rejoin the forums he'll be allowed to, I just can't let him come in here if he's going to be divisive.

Now for a few thoughts on this statement:

1. I haven't made any libelous comments about you, or even your character - I said you'd been PKing me with an alt over an issue with your primary character. Everything beyond that has been an expression of my opinion of that or my opinion of these proceedings.

2. Don't threaten me with bounty hunter retaliation - I've told you many times that I'm not going to kill Buncy or Cypher. In addition, most groups who make a business out of seeking PKers would not be as understanding as you are of your actions.

3. Yes I have an alt (in fact, I have a few - most inactive) and yes he is also a Ranger. That said, they've never cooperated on any goal larger than "help survivors" or "stick it to the RRF". Some may view your use of an alt to pursue a much more specific shared goal, a specific barricade policy, as more egregious an example of that (although few would go so far as to compare it to attacking the same target, etc.) I, for one, don't particularly care on this score or really concern myself as to whether it was your "Buncy" or your "Cypher" that was playing at the time. (If you read the Rangers' policy, it's specifically mentioned that the Rangers are free to have alts in the group - it never stated in Buncy's profile that his alt might kill you if you disagreed with him)

What pissed me off was a man, with whom I was engaged in (what seemed to be) productive negotiation to an acceptable compromise elected to kill both the allies of, team mates of and ultimately the very person he was talking to.

So, in closing, my issue with you has never been over points of policy, has never been whether or not you kept your different "RP" personalities seperate - my issue was that rather than simply talk to me and compromise or convince me that I was wrong, you would rather forfeit the reputation of your team mates, the safety of your home suburb and the chance to be allies rather than enemies.

If you'd like to have a clean slate and to try again, I'm willing to grant it - Scarletwood needs any defenders it can get right now - but don't hide behind technicalities or the "RP" defense, your mistake wasn't these things. It was deciding that having it your own way was more important than the survival of others.

-Grippy

[Buncy the Frog]

I'd suggest seeing the wiki page for the later end of this communication.

Oh, by the way, I've been unbann'd. Don't know if that's said anywhere here

[Major Grippy]

Didn't officially announce it, but I posted a message to that effect on your talk page - Mind if I change your display name to Buncy?

[Buncy the Frog]

It's Buncy The Frog if you don't mind; I'm not French. <_< >_> I think